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05 November 2011

Introducing the Amazing NymShifting Homeopath Troll

I thought USENET was bad for Trolls.

Where do they come from?

November 2011, towards evening -7.00 hr Greenwich time I received an interesting notice in my e-mail from YouTube.

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drhomeopathycure has replied to your comment on James Randi explains homeop=
athy:
      @wstevenschneider asshole fuck off


Surprising e-mail

I was a little bit surprised and a bit confused. Who was this drhomeopathycure and what did I ever do to this person? Why was drhomeopathycure calling me an "asshole" and telling me to "fuck off"?

This is an odd story, so I'd better fill you in.

Background on Christoa

The youtube user known as jamesbondking aka drchristoaa (He calls himself doctor, but his degree is in Homeopathy. Even if Homeopathy were viable science I don't see how an undergraduate's degree entitles him to practice medicine. But Homeopathy isn't medicine is it? No, it's woo.) heretofore known as Mr. Bonking, likes to enter forums where a video has been posted denouncing Homeopathy. Initial posts by Mr. Bonking often begin with an announcement of a study done in Bombay that, in his opinion, proves Homeopathy works.

drchristoaa
new research conducted at the respected Indian Institutes of Technology has
confirmed the presence of “nanoparticles” of the starting materials even at
extremely high dilutions of homeopathic medicine. Researchers have
demonstrated by Transmission Electron Microscopy (TEM), electron
diffraction and chemical analysis by Inductively Coupled Plasma-Atomic
Emission Spectroscopy (ICP-AES), the presence of physical entities in these
extreme dilutions

the researchers received confirmation of the existence of nanoparticles at
two different homeopathic high potencies (30C and 200C) and because they
tested four different medicines (Zincum met./zinc; Aurum met. /gold; Stannum
met./tin; and Cuprum met./copper), the researchers concluded that this study
provides “concrete evidence.”

Citing the Bombay Study

Challenge Mr. Bonking's understanding of the Bombay Study, say you tell him that finding particles in the Homeopathic remedy doesn't equal proof that homeopathy works, Mr. Bonking shows that he can't accept an alternate explanation.  Mr Bonking can't even begin to explain how the Bombay finding supports his notion that Homeopathy works.  At that point, Mr. Bonking begins to talk down to his challengers.

drchristoaa
@wstevenschneider Again you are becoming a clown here...dear read the article
understand it as it is, dont make your own explanation ok science has proved
how homeopathy works and homeopathy is the most advanced science of healing

you dont mislead innocent people, the fact is homeopathy works and is the most
advanced science of healing.And science has recently proved it using
nano-particle studies, IIT bombay found it, and it is not metal contaminates,
scientists at IIT are not fools like u. They know that science is everchanging.
They have done genuine test of Homeopathic dilution,and is done dublind blind.
They never know the aurum met 200 was the medicne before they detected the gold
particles form it.

wstevenschneider
@drchristoaa - "you dont mislead innocent people,"

Until proven otherwise, Homeopathy is a scam!

"it is not metal contaminates"

Do you even read what you post?  The article clearly said that they were
studying the metal contaminates _not_ the active ingredients.

"They have done genuine test of Homeopathic dilution,and is done dublind blind"

Their tests didn't prove anything beyond placebo, which what _all other double
blind studies_ found.

Talking Down to Challengers

Mr. Bonking even believes that Homeopathy journals are respected scientific journals. This despite the fact that Homeopathy journals don't appear in listings such as PAIS. (Yes, I misspelled it. Hey, I never claimed perfection, I just demand it.)

drchristoaa
@wstevenschneider Randi is still knows homeopathy can work. Homeopathy
works and is the most advanced science of healing, scientists has
proved it,(search IIT BOMBAY HOMEOPATHY) and the research paper
appeared in PEER reviewed well established journal and the result was
published after 4 years of study on nanotechnology and homeopathy by
scientists of IIT Bombay.

This definitely shows that HOMEOPATHY is the MOST ADVANCED  science
of healing and medicine of present and future.

Homeopathy Journals not in PAIS

Once all of his arguments run out (which doesn't take long) he not only continues using them as if they weren't refuted, but he begins to spam the forum. For example:

drchristoaa
HOMEOPATHY IS THE MOST ADVANCED SCIENCE OF HEALING...SCIENCE HAS
ALREADY PROVED HOW HOMEOPATHY WORKS... DEAR FRIENDS PLEASE UP
DATE YOUR SCIENCE KNOWLEDGE....HOMEOPATHY IS THE MEDICNE OF FUTURE,
EVEN THE FATHER OF MODERN MEDICNE SUPPORTED HOMEOPATHY.

This video is published by antihomeopaths, because many poeple are
tuning to homeopathy for better health, SO IGNORE THIS FOOLSIH VIDEO.

HOMEOPATHY WORKS...EXPERIENCE IT..

Spam

and

HOMEOPATHY IS THE MOST ADVANCED SCIENCE OF HEALING...SCIENCE HAS
ALREADY PROVED HOW HOMEOPATHY WORKS... DEAR FRIENDS PLEASE UP
DATE YOUR SCIENCE KNOWLEDGE....HOMEOPATHY IS THE MEDICNE OF FUTURE,
EVEN THE FATHER OF MODERN MEDICNE SUPPORTED HOMEOPATHY.

This video is published by antihomeopaths, because many poeple are
tuning to homeopathy for better health, SO IGNORE THIS FOOLSIH VIDEO.

HOMEOPATHY WORKS...EXPERIENCE IT..

More Spam

and

HOMEOPATHY IS THE MOST ADVANCED SCIENCE OF HEALING...SCIENCE HAS
ALREADY PROVED HOW HOMEOPATHY WORKS... DEAR FRIENDS PLEASE UP
DATE YOUR SCIENCE KNOWLEDGE....HOMEOPATHY IS THE MEDICNE OF FUTURE,
EVEN THE FATHER OF MODERN MEDICNE SUPPORTED HOMEOPATHY.

This video is published by antihomeopaths, because many poeple are
tuning to homeopathy for better health, SO IGNORE THIS FOOLSIH VIDEO.

HOMEOPATHY WORKS...EXPERIENCE IT..

Even More Spam

Detect a pattern yet?

HOMEOPATHY IS THE MOST ADVANCED SCIENCE OF HEALING...SCIENCE HAS
ALREADY PROVED HOW HOMEOPATHY WORKS... DEAR FRIENDS PLEASE UP
DATE YOUR SCIENCE KNOWLEDGE....HOMEOPATHY IS THE MEDICNE OF FUTURE,
EVEN THE FATHER OF MODERN MEDICNE SUPPORTED HOMEOPATHY.

This video is published by antihomeopaths, because many poeple are
tuning to homeopathy for better health, SO IGNORE THIS FOOLSIH VIDEO.

HOMEOPATHY WORKS...EXPERIENCE IT..

Spam Again

Want to guess what's coming next?

HOMEOPATHY IS THE MOST ADVANCED SCIENCE OF HEALING...SCIENCE HAS
ALREADY PROVED HOW HOMEOPATHY WORKS... DEAR FRIENDS PLEASE UP
DATE YOUR SCIENCE KNOWLEDGE....HOMEOPATHY IS THE MEDICNE OF FUTURE,
EVEN THE FATHER OF MODERN MEDICNE SUPPORTED HOMEOPATHY.

This video is published by antihomeopaths, because many poeple are
tuning to homeopathy for better health, SO IGNORE THIS FOOLSIH VIDEO.

HOMEOPATHY WORKS...EXPERIENCE IT..

Side order of Spam

The fact is that Mr. Bonking does this a lot. He's not a very good troll, but he's definitely consistent.

Getting Bonked Twice

I have to say, that I certainly did not enjoy it. When I first met Mr. Bonking I met him under his jamesbondking Channel ID in the James Randi's Challenge to Homeopathy Manufacturers and Retail Pharmacies posted by JamesRandiFoundation. Suddenly someone named drchristoaa started responding to our posts and sounding a lot like jamesbondking. Naturally, we were suspicious and so we pressed drchristoaa for the truth.

murdocha
@drchristoaa Wow, you sound a lot like jamesbondking. Are you
related?

wstevenschneider
@murdocha - Based on dr(?)christoaa's posting history I propose
this possibility.

drchristoaa == jamesbondking

Thoughts?

murdocha
@wstevenschneider It is astounding that you never see the two of
them together at the same time.

drchristoaa
@wstevenschneider yes u are right.Homeopathy works and is the most
advanced science of healing and science has proved it.

@murdocha Both are same,

wstevenschneider
@drchristoaa "Both are same, "

QFT as in the days of USENET.

murdocha
@drchristoaa Thought so. Troll away!

drchristoaa
@murdocha shut up..

Mr. Bonking's First Sockpuppet

To Mr. Bonking's credit, he did admit to the nymshift even if only under coercion.  To this day, Mr. Bonking keeps both accounts active though these days he's been posting most often as drchristoaa.

Hypothesis: A Third Bonking?

So, you've seen the e-mail that I received from drhomeopathycure at the beginning of this post. Here's a screenshot I took of drhomeopathycure's response. As you can see, drhomeopathycure's response has been deleted, but guess who also replied to me?

drchristoaa
@wstevenschneider fuck off

Evidence of Third Bonking?

As you can see (aside from Mr. Bonking's stream of verbal abuse) Mr. Bonking's response is suspiciously similar to drhomeopathycure's. Coincidence? Perhaps, but it is my belief that Mr. Bonking has nymshifted a third time and accidentally replied as drhomeopathycure.

Drhomeopathycure's Channel Screenshot


Because my screenshot program isn't working at 100% efficiency right now, I had to take a series of shots of drhomeopathycure's Channel. In the fifth screen shot you'll see drhomeopathycure's recent activity. Anything seem familiar?

Top of Channel

Second sixth of Channel

Third sixth of Channel

Fourth sixth of Channel

@wstevenschneider asshole fuck off

Fifth sixth of Channel

Bottom of Channel


So there you go, whether drhomeopathycure is Mr. Bonking or not, drhomeopathycure did indeed curse at me. Not that's such a big deal, I have cranks and crackpots curse at me all of the time. However, if drhomeopathycure is Mr. Bonking then, Mr. Bonking, you've made an error and have been caught.  Because, Mr. Bonking, The Internets never forgets!

The Stolen Video

Aside from (unsuccessfully might I add) trying to destroy my confidence, drhomeopathycure seems to be a bit of thief too. Now, Standard YouTube License allows other YouTube users to use portions of other user's videos in their own videos. The license also allow people to mirror other peoples videos as well. Proper attribution and credits are required. Drhomeopathy cure used the video James Randi explains Homeopathy posted by Rational Response and reposted it as HOMEOPATHY EXPAINED WRONGLY....mp4. This was without proper attribution, crediting the original uploaders, stating that it's a mirror, without permission of the JREF and without modification.

Compare RationalResponse's video



to drhomeopathycure's. (Video no longer available. See Updates below.)




Is there any significant difference between the two?


Drhomeopathycure, Mr. Bonking, or whomever the hell you really are, this is very low.  I don't even know if it's legal.  I can't, even for a moment, think of how you believe James Randi's video proves your case.  Have you no originality?

Updates


07 November 2011

  1. Murdoch has informed me that drhomeopathycure has removed the questionable video!!!
  2. Drhomeopathycure has given us more evidence in the If Homeopathy Beats Science forum that he is Mr. Bonking. (see screenshot below, he removed his original post)

Post in drhomeopathycure's activity window.
HOMEOPATHY IS THE MOST ADVANCED SCIENCE OF HEALING...SCIENCE HAS
ALREADY PROVED HOW HOMEOPATHY WORKS...DEAR FRIENDS PLEASE UP DATE
YOUR SCIENCE KNOWLEDGE....HOMEOPATHY IS THE MEDICNE OF FUTURE, EVEN
THE FATHER OF MODERN MEDICNE SUPPORTED HOMEOPATHY.
This video is published by antihomeopaths, because many poeple are
tuning to homeopathy for better health, SO IGNORE THIS FOOLSIH VIDEO.
HOMEOPATHY WORKS...EXPERIENCE IT

Spam for desert too!


Mr. Bonking, did you accidentally post as drhomeopathycure again? Silly mistakes to make with your little sock puppets, your antics are revealed for all to see.